Red Bali vs Red Indo Comparison

July 09, 2018 Articles, Kratom Alkaloids, Kratom Reviews

Last week, I had so much fun reviewing Gaia Ethnobotanicals’ Red Bali and Kat’s Botanicals’ White Thai for our Red vs White Comparison that my wife said I had to replicate the experience for this week’s review.

“You’ve rarely looked so happy doing your work,” she told me. “It was like watching ET discover the joys of cross-dressing.”

She was absolutely right, I had spent weeks writing about kratom, but I hadn’t sampled kratom in quite some time. It was a refreshing experience that I knew I had to attempt again. Today, we’re taking a look at the differences and similarities of Red Bali and Red Indo.

These two unique strains have been perennial favorites for quite some time. At the Kratom Crazy store, Red Bali regularly sells out, making it one of the most in-demand kratom strains on the market.

Without further ado, let’s get into it!


Evoking images of the lush paradise that is Bali, particularly the rainforests where plants like kratom are grown in mineral-rich soil, Red Bali actually earns its name from the port from which kratom is shipped.

A hybrid strain of Borneo and Sumatra grown via the grafting process, Red Bali has gained in popularity because of affordable pricing and widespread availability. Ground to the consistency of sugar, it is easy to toss n’ wash without any clumps getting stuck to the roof of your mouth.

It has the highest amount of active alkaloids of any common kratom strain save for Maeng Da. Users have enjoyed its euphoric effects, calling it the coolest of all kratom powders on the planet.

The purported effects of Red Bali may include any of the following:

  • Palliative
  • Uplifting
  • Mildly lethargic

None of these effects can be confirmed as there is insufficient scientific evidence to support such claims. As we’ve stressed to our readers before, the FDA has not approved kratom of any kind for medicinal use.

For my comparison, I’ve decided to compare Coastline Kratom‘s Red Bali with Kratom Spot‘s Red Vein Indo.

Now, a lot of noobs are thrown by the name Red Bali because they expect the powder to be the color red, but I know better. The word “red” comes from the color of the kratom vein. Red Vein Bali kratom powder is actually green in color and some believe that the darker the green, the more you lean, so to speak.

In the case of Coastline Kratom’s Red Bali powder, it’s green AF! The $12.99 package I ordered was some of the darkest green I’ve ever seen.

I’ve always sworn by Maeng Da as the mother of all kratom when it comes to potency, but I’ve gotta say, this Red Bali was the strongest kratom I’ve had in recent memory. My wife even regretted her suggestion that I do another experience piece because she said I hadn’t acted the way I did since college.

I’m not typically forgetful of my behavior when I dose with kratom, but my wife insists that I said and did things I don’t remember doing. About an hour after I tossed and washed, she claims that I was doing the Macarena to the Ellen show. I plead the fifth. Lol.

Here’s what I can say for sure. I felt an intense sense of well-being, a warm fuzziness if you will. It only took a threshold dose for me to experience the euphoria of this strain and the aches and pains I’d been feeling in my joints from the rather rainy day we were having cleared up within twenty minutes of taking it.

Compared to other strains, I’d say this one takes the cake in terms of putting a smile on your face. It may be a dumb smile, but it’s a smile all the same.


All red vein kratom strains are similar, but they all have little differences as well. Red Indo is well-known for its diverse properties. The high volume alkaloids present in this strain have been used to cope with stressors, increase sociability and make for a good night’s sleep.

That’s because Red Indo, like Red Bali is a form of kratom that can make you drowsy. It is better than most at calming one’s nerves.

Not nearly as invigorating as Red Bali, Red Indo is appreciated by many for its moderate effects. It is one of the first strains I would recommend to a beginner who has never dealt with kratom before.

The drawback to this one is how long it generally takes to kick in. Users have reported waiting anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour to reap the supposed rewards of this kratom strain. Nevertheless, it is a viable option for the novice who wants to get to know the Mitragyna speciosa (kratom) plant.

Like Red Bali, its effects may include any of the following:

  • Palliative
  • Mildly uplifting

Kratom Spot’s Red Vein Indo Kratom is slightly cheaper than Coastline Kratom’s powders, but not by much. I’d even go so far as to say that it’s worth paying a few extra bucks to order from Coastline because their packaging, shipping and customer service is better overall.

However, Kratom Spot provides fine powders and fair pricing, making them a worthy choice for the frugal kratomite. They also have a decent product line and a user-friendly website.

Now, to their Red Indo. I took 6 grams the morning after I tried Coastline Kratom’s Red Bali so as not to confuse the effects of one with the effects of the other. I can honestly say that I was a bit bummed by the results.

Usually, when I’ve gone a long time without using kratom, the effects of a strain are felt almost immediately. I invariably experience the first plateau within 15-20 minutes. Not the case with this Red Indo. I waited upwards of an hour without sensing any change in my mood or cognition.

An hour and ten minutes went by and I decided to take another two grams. Maybe 15 minutes later, I could feel myself beginning to relax some, but by that point, my morning coffee had warn off and I might have just been going through a sort of comedown from that.

Twenty minutes later, I began to feel tired which is always a consequence of sedating strains that I hate. I took a short nap and when I woke up I admittedly felt more invigorated than I normally feel upon waking from a nap, but I was still disappointed. This was not the kind of feeling I look for from kratom.

Most loyal kratom warriors will tell you that they enjoy kratom not so much for its sedating effect but for the relief they get from the things that ail them. As someone who got into the kratom space because of the relief he’d received from a lifetime suffering from Fibromyalgia…I can tell you that I’m not big on the so-called “kratom high.”


If you’re looking for a kratom strain that will seriously make you feel optimistic, replenished and even a bit wacky (in the best possible sense of the word) then Red Bali may be just the ticket. If, on the other hand, you’re looking for something that will help with sleep disorders, Red Indo may be right for you.

Bob Freville
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